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to take up the explosive issue of same-sex marriage, agreeing to hear challenges to the federal defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's pete williams joins us now from washington with all the latest details. good evening, pete. >> reporter: good evening, larry. the vilma case is the easier one. federal law signed into law by president clinton in 1996. it says if a person is legally married in a state, the federal government can't recognize those marriages. that's where you talked about federal benefits heterosexual couples get and same sex couples do not. the prop 8 thing is bigger. while potentially it's confined to the state of california only, the question it out there having given the right to gay marriage could the state then take it away through proposition 8 passed by a majority of the vote nurse 2008. having taken that case, the court could get to the bedrock issue. can any state refuse to let same sex couples get married under the federal constitution. it could potentially be narrow or very far. >> pete, as i understand it, let me ask you. this one of thes
, the defense department saying kim jong un can spend his money launching missiles or feed his people but he can't have both. the missile is capable of taking a nuclear bomb to a target in the region. the syrian military has been fighting scud missiles at rebily fighters. while there's no evidence that they have been loaded with chemical weapons, at many as saturday scud missiles have been fired over several days. welcome back mark ginsburg. is assad pushing the pan being button? >> this 1945. he's in the bunker, throwing everything he can at the point. it's a desperate move on his part because the rebels are closing in. it was those very scud missiles that saddam hussein lobbed at israel and there was great fear that those scud missiles are capable -- i said capable -- of having weapons of mass destruction on their war head. >> we don't really know. we're assuming know but it's possible these could be housing chemical weapons? >> there had already been reports, larry, earlier this week. that's why secretary of defense panetta and the president of the united states warned assad publicly about us
was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i think tom colts was right from oklahoma. they ought to get out of the way. there wouldn't be as much deficit redu
billion, more or less. >> more or less. >> it's homeland security, not just defense. >> yeah. that's always been one of the mischaracterizatio mischaracterizations. think of it as all national security. there's other parts that go into medicare providers also. >> can i possibly talk you into leaving the capital gains tax rate alone and the dividends tax rate? they're pro investment, pro capital formation. they help inves tors and retirees and help start new businesses. i know certain tax rates will goup whether i like it or not. can icon vince you to leave capital gains alone? >> it's all on the table. only two people know. that's president obama and speaker baner. i haven't spoken to them today. they're not talking publically. but they are negotiating. i believe getting closer. you have to realize as part of the budget agreement of 2011 we did agree on $1.1 trillion in cuts. that's already there. and i also believe that it's very important that we raise the debt ceiling when we do the fiscal -- >> you will never get it. let me ask you. will the democrats get an increase in and i u
.s. and allies closer to the serious vicivil w. former deputy assistant defense secretary. rula let me begin with you. is this going to blow up into a civil war and blow up? >> no, i think it is against him grabbing power. it is a sign that he needs to back off and drop the decrees and make a constitution that is not acceptable by the egyptians. he is not governing in the name of the muslim brotherhood. he needs to listen to them. >> his recent actions suggest that the answer is no. and that is he going his own way. >> i hope she is right. everyone that you can think of is that the people who prevailed is that the people who are the most organized are the most ruthless. i want to ask you about the role of al qaeda in iraq and in jordon. could this spread to iraq? >> i think they have nothing to do with each other. it is wrong. they are two different cultures. they are a million years away from each other. let protesters are civil enough not to become violent. you saw the soldiers and the police men. they let them say what they wanted. and the us aid. and here the government has a major role
to send 20 f-16 fighter jets to syria. >> is this the time to send secretary defense. >> if we are recognizing the opposition there, some reports say that it is full of al qaeda as and iraq and al kid is in syria. it is good that the at min tration is finally doing something. we have beeen sitting on their hands. >> the u.s. is sending 20 more f-16. he is at war with reformers and there are rights there. we no no idea what this consti tooth constitution. why are we doing this? >> i'm as confused. i kint of say how is that working for you? nothing to do with syria, yemen ebipt and this is a mess and so is our policy. >> you are right. but we want to be careful by not ailnating the military. >> do we know, ebipt was a secularist. now, the question here is, is it going to become a sharia. is the brotherhood going to get this power. >> that is the biggest concern. we'll see how that goes on sunday. it would be a shame if egypt was less throw. >> why don't we hold this aid back until talks can lay out and send the state department thing over. the secularists and reformers on the str
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